||[May. 21st, 2013|09:58 am]
The new Flickr redesign is a goddamn nightmare. I'm so upset.
Ten years and 90,000 views and I'll be on a new site by the end of the month.
What's wrong with it? Well, let's start with the basics:
* Their new layout means that photos in a row are the same *height*, which makes landscape photos enormous and portrait ones have their impact severely reduced. In some rows, I have 7 portrait photos crammed in beneath 3 huge (but relatively boring) landscape ones. And to make it work, each row is a *different* height, meaning some of my portraits are TINY.
* There's not enough white space between photos, so they intrude on each other, shouting for your attention.
* Single photos now show up on a black background. You don't do that. You go with grey or white, it's a rule.
But none of that is the big problem, just really clueless design flaws. The BIG problem is this:
It makes your photos look insignificant and temporary.
...Because it looks like Google image search, or every other quick-search mobile device Windows-8 rubbish.
Why am I so upset by this? I'm surprised to find that I really am. I think it's because I viewed my flickr page (which I loved) as a portfolio. I can't draw or paint, so I use my camera. By reducing the presentation of that, they've actually made me a worse artist.
I don't want a site that makes VIEWING other people's photos easier and faster, I want one to SHOW my photos on to best effect.
Yahoo don't care. Their clear plan is to get everyone to use the free accounts only, so that they can charge more for the new adverts they've put on your page. To help with that, FlickrPro accounts now don't give anything significant over free ones, and the only options from today forward are to get rid of the adverts or not.
Other smaller issues with the redesign? Loads of them:
* They're taking the stats and "who viewed you" feature out totally. This is insane.
* The titles to the photos only appear on mouseover, the commentary and comments from others are only visible if click to view the photo on its own. Previously they've been set up to be part of the story, and people have written them with presenting on Flickr in mind.
* The icons for your Sets are zoomed-in versions of the cover photos, with no options to change that, and the Sets no longer appear on the front page at all.
* Instead of viewing lots of my friends' photos and choosing a few to look at in detail, I have to scroll past huge images for much longer.
* It's much slower (loading) and people have reported problems getting it to even run on some machines.
There's lots more but I'm too depressed. There's almost no aspect of this which doesn't appear amateurish or designed by someone with zero basic knowledge of how to present photographs. The loss is that there's a professional community out there who were linked to each other through flickr and they're almost unanimously horrified.
Here's the official feedback thread. The comments are about 99% negative, which is hugely high even for an unannounced, mandatory roll-out like this. And they're not just a little bit negative, they're screaming.
EDIT: I moved to http://www.ipernity.com/. They have an script to import your photos, titles and all from Flickr. They'll be very rich soon. My new page is here: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/293847/album/325713/@/page:1:18?view=1
I disagree with you in almost every particular. :)
I think it presents photos *better* than the old way, gives a far more cohesive sense of a photographer's style, that (non-portrait, and even some portrait) photos look *better* on black, and that basically it shows off more work, more elegantly than the old way did.
And I like minimal, whitespace-heavy design. I liked the old way, too.
I'm not wild about the account changes, particularly since I only recently bought a few years worth of Pro a couple of months back, but on the other hand: I've got a few year before they're going to bug me, and who knows where Flickr will be by then? Yahoo are clearly investing in Flickr again, which is great to see - I *adore* their iOS app - and if they're going to try new things along the way, *great*. I'd far rather them try things and see what happens than almost kill the service through neglect like they did.
All that said: If you're looking for an alternative, try http://500px.com/
- they're the only alternative option I ever shelled out money for, and they're expressly aimed at pro and semi-pro photographers.
:) At the moment, I just can't see it. It might be an unfortunate coincidence of which of my photos are deciding line-lengths etc right now, but my page is much, much worse than it was.
Yeah, I hear good things about 500px's very recent redesign, will give them a look.
*hands you an assault rifle* Take this shit to the streets! :D
I know it's a stupid issue to get upset about, but it was something I frequently liked to look at. Ah well, onto a site where Yahoo's obvious contempt for their users isn't going to result in them monetising my photos soon.
Gotta love how this came the same day Yahoo said "no, we're not going to change Tumblr sssssssssssssssssh."
I've been asked to upload a bigger, better photo please for my avatar. I don't really want to - I liked my teeny robin.
I can't get my photofeed to load at all.
The main page isn't great. The other was much, MUCH better. I can't think of much that I would have asked to be changed tbh.
I want my money back :(
I use Flickr as a portfolio for my work, and now it looks like a crappy image search as you rightly say. My photography skills are not great, and what I am personally trying to advertise is the things that I make, thus I need the descriptions/etc to appear on the photo. I'm also having difficulty loading the damnable interface and this is by no means a sluggish laptop!
Argh, I really do hate everything about the new layout. I think I'm going to put all my content back on my website instead unless things are changed back.
2013-05-23 04:02 pm (UTC)
It's all about the mobile users.
Hi Steve, I agree with all you say.
Flickr's target market is now the generation who take, upload and view pictures from mobile devices.
The terabyte was the marketing hook to get them in and the advertising strategy is to monetize their pictures and ours.
The site revamp was a rush job for the marketing department to make the site look more "social-media" to attract in those "mobile" users. That's why it doesn't work that well both in functionality and look.
They didn't have time to re-skin the whole site, they've added no functionality and they've made it a bandwidth disaster both for end users and their own servers. Anybody who made any point about titling and describing their pictures and sets is now out in the cold with the new justified format.
The re-skin wasn't for us, it was a quick and dirty piece of glitter for selling the site to the new users and new demographic on who Flickr have now bet the farm.
2013-05-23 04:05 pm (UTC)
Re: It's all about the mobile users.
Yeah, absolutely. I've seen it on a mobile - it works a little better, because there's only 4-5 photos on the screen and you HAVE to zoom in to each to see them properly anyway. But it still looks like a cheap image search, and I need a site which shows off my photos to best effect instead. Such a shame, I loved the old version and would have paid to keep it.
2013-05-23 05:19 pm (UTC)
Re: It's all about the mobile users.
I not only loved the old site I used to recommend it to people. Not anymore. I'd have paid for Pro again without thinking up until the beginning of the week. Now I'm looking at alternatives unless Flickr do an about-face and restore usability to their site.
For those who're determined to stay with Flickr I'd worry about Yahoo's purchase of Tumblr.
I can already see some exec in the bowels of Yahoo, hands clasped behind his head, leaning back in his chair and contemplating the ceiling thinking to himself:
Two picture sites? Why are we running two separate picture sites?